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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 26 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 150

Today's Topics:

      [*] 3D Dots version 1.0 release enclosed...
      [*] 3D Folder Icons
      [*] Carpetbag 1.3.9 package
      [*] Object Browser Demo 1.0
      [*] Polytris 1.02
      *RUMOR* Higher PC Prices Due Today
      1984 Commercial...
      [C] *** MacWorld Boston Dinner Details ***
      An MS Word Converison Problem
      AOL and Stuffit
      Applelink Pkg
      Buying a Powerbook: please help
      CPro vs. Stuffit on AOL
      Deskwriter drivers
      Downloading PostScript Files to a Network Printer?
      E-mail  AOL <==> Internet  ?
      E-mail AOL <==> Internet? (A)
      Eudora &PB Modem
      ftp via email
      GEnie <--> Internet email
      Has anyone heard of a DELL-Mac trade-in program?
      How do I xmodem from UNIX to Mac via Modem? (Q)
      Icons disappearing
      Identifying OLD old System files (A)
      Last word on Info-Mac to AOL
      LCIII Monitor Woes!!
      Locking a hard disk (R)
      m4 Macro Processor
      Mac IIx Power On
      Macworld Expo Toronto (A)
      Mathematica and MODE32 on SE/30 - it may work!
      MPW 3.3 is a breeze to install
      On the fly monitor resolution switching
      PAL SIMM's (Q)
      PC->MAC->PC
      Posting to GENIE from Internet
      Problems with Harvest C
      Quadra 800/MacTCP problem solved!
      Rocket Science in Palo Alto?
      Splitting Mac files (R)
      Stylewriter II and vertical axes
      The Newton MessagePad...
      Think C 6.0 and C++ (Q)
      Trouble with Arthur's Teacher Trouble
      Upgrading StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 -> 3.0.6 (A)

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 21:40:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Strobel <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] 3D Dots version 1.0 release enclosed...

I'm pleased to announce the official release of "3D Dots" vers.1.0.

3D Dots is a program for creating your own random dot stereograms.
Random dot stereograms are three-dimensional images, made of dots,
that require no special glasses for viewing. Once you have learned
how to view them, the images contained in stereograms appear almost
magically to pop off the page. To view them, all you need is binocular
vision, patience and perhaps a sense of humor.

In 3D Dots, you can create your own random dot stereograms using
shapes (rectangles, circles and triangles) and text. You can change
dot patterns as well as the "elevation" of objects (how far they
appear to pop off the page).

3D Dots works like a drawing program. You can create objects, move
them around and erase them. You can save the images for editing in
other drawing programs, copy them into the clipboard or print them
out directly from 3D Dots.

Features:
   * Easy paint/draw program-like image creation
   * Multiple backgrounds dot patterns
   * Visual alignment dots
   * Image height control
   * Copy/Save/Print
   * Extensive help
   * Explanation of Random Dot Stereogram theory

System Requirements:
  * System 7 minimum
  * Monitor with at least 640 X 400 pixels resolution

3D Dots is shareware.  Registration is $19.00.  See the shareware
notice inside the program for details.

The file itself is enclosed in binhex format.  You should save this
entire message, download it to your Macintosh and run a de-binhexing
program on it.  Stuffit Classic, Compact Pro and Binhex 4.0 all have
this feature.


Thanks and enjoy!

...Jeff                                     [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/3d-dots-10.hqx; 214K]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 14:42:59 EST
From: John West <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] 3D Folder Icons

Some 3D Folder Icons to use to replace the ugly ones Apple supplies with
System
7.x. All System Folder icons are included (Control Panels, Drop Box, Fonts,
etc.).

While you're downloading, get IConArtist by N. Jonus Englund. You'll need it
to
install these icons in your System file. IConArtist is small (<50k), so it
won't be that much of a pain to download.

Enjoy!
-john

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/grf/system-7-3d-folders.hqx; 15K]

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 2:09:46 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Jim Walker)
Subject: [*] Carpetbag 1.3.9 package

Carpetbag is a shareware ($5) control panel extension that makes
resources such as fonts, sounds, FKEYs, and keyboard layouts
available to your programs without installing the resources in
the System file.  You specify certain folders, and Carpetbag
opens all resource files therein at boot time.  It works under
System 6, but is smarter about keeping track of folders
under System 7.  It should even be able to use a folder on a remote
Appleshare volume.

This file is in StuffIt 3.0 format.  It can be decompressed with StuffIt
Expander (freeware) or anything in the StuffIt 3.0 family.

v. 1.3.9 fixes a few minor bugs and updates Laser Path for LaserWriter 8.0.

 -- Jim Walker

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/carpetbag-139.hqx; 87K]

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 23:59:41 +0600
From: (Brad Koehn) <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Object Browser Demo 1.0

Enclosed is a copy of Object Browser Demo version 1.0.

Object Browser is a programmer's utility designed to assist people
debugging object-oriented programs. Object Browser will display, in
real-time, the contents of an application's objects.

Using the demo is easy: just double-click the file, and the program will
bring up a window displaying the MainWindow object for itself. Click (and
hold the button down for a while) in the outward pointing arrows to display
those objects. Click in the inward-pointing arrows to display
substructures.

The documentation is actually a marketing piece, but please print it out or
look at it. I put it into various forms that should make it readable to
everyone. I recommend downloading the PostScript file if you have a
PostScript printer. Otherwise look at the TeachText documents.

Object Browser will not run on 68000-based Macs (Plus, SE, PowerBook 100)
due to limitations in the address modes on those machines. Sorry. Had I
known about this bug earlier, I would have at least made it put up an alert
or something.

If none of this makes sense to you, don't worry: it's a programmer thing.
All of the objects displayed are from Symantec's Think Class Library (TCL),
although Object Browser can be modified to display objects from any class
library (that I know of).

If you are interested in Object Browser, contact me at the one of the
addresses below. I am currently looking for a company to assist me in
further development of Object Browser, and in bringing it to market.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/object-browser-10-demo.hqx; 340K]

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Date: 15 Jul 1993 22:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Polytris 1.02

    Triiiiiiis iiiiiiis back!!!!
    Polytris is a game with falling polyomino blocks,1 to 5 connected square
    blocks. The objective is to stay in game by removing rows. Tetris is one
    of variations of Polytris which uses only tetrominoes, 4 connected
    squares.
    Polytris is more challenging because it has 29 kinds of blocks, bombs,
    weights and water balloons. Depending on your skill, you can adjust the
    difficulty of the game. It can be configured as from 'Qualye's Tetris' to
    'Ultra Super Duper Extra Tris Plus'.
    Polytris is a shareware game. If you want to use it, please send at least
    'ONE US DOLLAR' to the auther. It is worth far more than $1.
    Version 1.01 works with upper and lower case keys. 'Configure Key' dialog
    is displayed properly. More minor bugs are fixed in version 1.02.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/polytris-101.hqx; 232K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 08:58:33 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: *RUMOR* Higher PC Prices Due Today

I heard from a government PC buyer that PC prices (and Macs too, I assume)
are scheduled to go up today (Monday). According to this rumor, the major
manufacturer of RAM had their factory go up in smoke. This vendor
reportedly represents 85% of the RAM manufacturing in the world.

According to the rumor, RAM prices will sour and PC prices will follow.

Let me be clear in saying that I have *not* seen any confirmation
of this on the Internet or in any of the trades. I just heard
about this yesterday evening.

Does anyone heard the same thing and, if so, has it been verified?

Jeffrey Fritz
[e-mail]
West Virginia University

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 11:10:22 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 1984 Commercial...

You wrote...

-> 3. 1984: One of the demo machines at our university bookstore has the
->    QuickTime movie of the original "1984" Macintosh commercial. With
->    the manager's permission, I copied it this morning -- onto 10 HD
->    floppies. I don't normally care for QuickTime. It is a tad resource
->    intensive. But this is a classic. If you can find a copy, I recommend
->    it highly. Granted, I'm easily impressed. But Leslye, the graphics
->    phreaque, just went "Duhhh!" as she watched it, and I believe a tear
->    came to her eye. It is a great selling point for multimedia.

Since the 1984 movie that's currently archived in the sumex site was
apparently
excerpted from a documentary (it includes a voice over that talks about "Jobs
creating an ad that..."), could you post the pristine one from your disks?

David Lawrence
Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job
CAC/ARPA                                   *in* the world
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 75300,2460     AOL: OLTDavid or DoctorMac

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 16:44:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. Marsh Gardiner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [C] *** MacWorld Boston Dinner Details ***

I hope you all are getting excited for the fast-approaching Boston MacWorld
Expo (PowerPC stuff, MessagePad Newton, etc).  There WILL be a netters'
dinner again this year on Thursday, August 5th.  The plan is to meet in
the North End (see below) at the European.  It is Massachusetts' oldest
Italian restaurant, and certainly a Boston tradition for Italian food.  It
has been serving since the beginning of the Bolshevik revolution (1917). ;^)
The portions are generous, and entrees are $6-$19.  Informal, B&W, Lqr.,
AmEx, DC, Discover, MC, V.  Wheelchair access.  Depending on the number of
people who respond, (RSVP *IS* NECESSARY!!!) we will have the "balcony
room".  (Thanks to the "Unofficial Guide to Life at Harvard," which
provided some of those details.)

If I remember correctly, the exhibit halls close around 6-6:30.
Therefore, I think a reservation for around 7:00 should be about right.??
I will send directions for car and "T" (that's Boston for "subway"), when
all is settled.  BUT FIRST I NEED TO KNOW WHO IS COMING.  In order for
this to work out right, an accurate number is necessary.  We will have a
great time.

One last thing--the sooner you get back to me, the better.  However,
please be aware that I will be giving the final number to the restaurant
on FRIDAY, JULY 30th.

>>From The Boston Toolkit Stack, by Jim Rigby:
>The North End
>Boston's Little Italy is one of the city's oldest residential districts
>and one of the most colorful. The scents of cappucino and fresh baked
>breads waft through the narrow and twisting streets. The city's oldest
>residence the Paul Revere House is located here.

(sent to Mac-L, Macpb-L, Info-mac, and comp.sys.mac.hardware)

I look forward to seeing you all,

Marsh
__________
Marsh Gardiner
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 12:02:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kieran O'Connor <[e-mail]>
Subject: An MS Word Converison Problem

Hi,
I have an MS Word 5.1a document. I'd like to upload it to an archive site,
and cant seem to figure out how to save it as ASCII. I know how to save it
and binhex it for Mac users, this verison, the ASCII version is for IBM
users who dont have unzip, etc.

Anyway, I would appreciate any help someone might be able to give. Please
respond directly to the address below if possible. Thanks!



Kieran O'Connor

E-Mail Address: [e-mail]
Syracuse, N.Y. USA

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 12:59:29 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AOL and Stuffit

Larry wrote:

-> Jeff Needleman <[e-mail]> and Dave Martin <[e-mail]>
-> point out that AOL allows auto-decompression on d/l (it's an option to
-> make life easier for novices) and that this is the reason that files
-> must be in .sit format. While this was the original rational, it is no
-> longer valid. Stuffit(tm) (any current version) can handle Compact-Pro
-> archives "just fine."  It's AOL choice not to update their software.
-> Also, since both of these gentlemen were concerned with the novice user,
-> I will point out that it you make life "too easy" for novices they will
-> never be anything but.

Jeez, I thought the whole point was to not only provide a forum for more
experienced users, but also to be patient and understanding to *all* levels of
users. The tone of the rest of your message is at the very least intolerant
and
in many cases downright nasty. I don't understand your refusal to grab a copy
of Stuffit 1.5.1 or Stuffit Lite and make everyone's life easier. Or better
yet, just don't do the uploading. I'm sure someone out there can do it without
all the hassle.

Perhaps you don't quite get it. America Online's software has, inherent to the
resources, code licensed from Aladdin to perform the auto unstuffing,
post-download, of files compressed with *any* version of Stuffit. It is *not*
a
full fledged version of Stuffit, nor does it stand alone and hence is it
easily
updated. It's a great convenience to me to have the option of downloading,
unstuffing and having the archives then deleted...and I'm hardly a novice. I
think that rather than to fault AOL for making this a requirement (which, as
you noticed, isn't really a requirement), they should be applauded for adding
value to their software.

As a power user who still has some compassion for those who are still
beginners
and may *never* want to become power users, I think it makes false assumptions
to claim that we have to avoid making life easy for novices, especially when
it
comes down to a publication like this. Why make it difficult for someone who
may not be as savvy as others to discover the wealth of information we have
here? AOL is a network for the masses, as another writer put it, and that
needs
to be kept in mind.

Larry, I think you've painted yourself in to a corner, and now might be an
appropriate time to graciously step out.

And if I'm not mistaken, Dan Rolander was doing what a lot of people have done
in the past: using the issue number as the subject matter. BTW, was *my*
subject line acceptable to you? {many grins}


[Disclaimer/moment of cheerleading]

I get very defensive about AOL...they truly have our best interests at heart,
and I feel very close to the folks there. They put the users first, and they
are constantly refining their product. Mark my words...they'll be the
benevolently dominant online service within a year or so. And we'll be the
better for it.

[pom poms now down]


David Lawrence
Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job
CAC/ARPA                                   *in* the world
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 75300,2460     AOL: OLTDavid or DoctorMac

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:00:48 CDT
From: Akira <[e-mail]>
Subject: Applelink Pkg

Is there any app that will expand an AppleLink Pkg?  I havetries CP and
stuffit to no avail.  Any suggestions?

Akira

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Date: Mon, 26 JUL 93 13:29 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Buying a Powerbook: please help

Hello,

I've been out of the business (reading the digest, any magazine, etc.)
for some week. Now I would buy a Powerbook (here, in Italy) and I'm
a bit confused in the Apple new offers.

I've got an LC at home so I plan to use the Powerbook either as a second
Mac or a better Mac. I'd like also to enter in the CD-ROM world and I'm
quite interested in the PowerCD.

I've got about 3500 $ for all the stuff (Powerbook, another battery,
LocalTalk or SCSI cables, modem and eventually CD-ROM drive) and I can
get the Education offers. I don't care the DUO models because my parents
need a Mac at home.
Have you got any suggestions to me particulary regarding

-       witch to buy: is it better an entry-level one as the new 145B
    or some mid-range one as 160 (in that case I would pay about 800 $
    more for the *same* CPU, 16-gray LCD and the SCSI port for direct
    linking to my home Hard Disk)?
-       how is the internal modem - is it better to get an external one?
-       Any *new* Apple offers in August/September? Is it worth to wait for
the
    PowerCD or is it better to buy a faster 300k CD-ROM drive?
    I read on MacUser (July issue) that the PowerCD is not very good
    CD drive... it seems like the Powerbook 100: a first issue waiting for
    better things to come. More: I think the 160 is the oldest pwbk among
    all the Powerbooks - do you think in september some 160B will come
    out?

Please reply directly to me
Thanks in advance,
Greetings,
                            Federico

[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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Date: 26 Jul 1993 11:02:02 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: CPro vs. Stuffit on AOL

Re uploading Info mac on AOL:

-> I had inadvertently violated the rules of the AOL Thought Police - you
-> see Compact-Pro (obviously a perverted piece of shareware) is NOT an
-> acceptable format for AOL.  Only the Great God Stuffit(tm) shall be
-> allowed in the AOL Sacred Archive.

The reason for the requirement is that AOL 2.0 has the ability to
automatically
unstuff Stuffit archives after downloading. It's built in to the software,
licensed from Aladdin. Hence, AOL wants you to put it in that format before
uploading. If you need Stuffit Lite or Stuffit Classic, they're both available
on AOL.

It's really no big deal, and certainly no conspiracy. It just lets those users
who aren't as savvy as some get automatic decompression without having to
think
about it.

David Lawrence
Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job
CAC/ARPA                                   *in* the world
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 75300,2460     AOL: OLTDavid or DoctorMac

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 09:46:14 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David B. Reiser)
Subject: Deskwriter drivers

Before working at getting the DWC 3.0, DW 3.9, or DW 4.0 drivers, folks may
want to consider the bug contained in all these drivers that affects printing
after printing an envelope. For all of these driver versions, once you've
printed an envelope, you're stuck in envelope mode (i.e., _any_ print job,
regardless of page setup settings, will leave you with the ready light
flashing, expecting you to feed the printer an envelope). I've always been
able to recover by just cycling the power on the printer. An HP volunteer on
CI$ has said you have to restart the computer too. Maybe that's true if you
use HP Print Monitor.

The greyscale printing of the new drivers is much better than their
predecessors
 though.

I did try uploading the DWC 3.0 drivers a few weeks ago. They seem to have
disappeared into the ether. Given my woefully miniscule understanding of
Unix mail systems, I have no clue as to where the problem arose. The file is
big (1 MB in .cpt.hqx form), so size problems might have hit me. Send
suggestions and I'll try uploading it again. Don't be afraid to suggest the
obvious, as I am mostly clueless in Unix.

Dave Reiser
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 14:07:07 BST
From: A.D'[e-mail]
Subject: Downloading PostScript Files to a Network Printer?

I would like to download a postscript file to a postscript printer on our
network (Novell). The LaserWriter Font Utility does not seem to work with
networks printers (the utility hangs up when checking the characterisitics
of the network printer). The only way I can get postscript files printed is
to run SoftPC (pc emulator) and to log into the file server and type
"nprint filename". This is obviously unsatisfactory (SoftPC is slow and
uses a lot of memory). Does anyone know of a better way of doing this?

Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 09:46:24 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Koch)
Subject: E-mail  AOL <==> Internet  ?

>Is it possible to e-mail a user on
>America-Online or Prodigy from the internet?

I believe the AOL format is [e-mail].  For instance, "Dilbert"
cartoonist
Scott Adams is [e-mail] (he usually includes his Internet address in
the cartoon, along with his signature).

Last time I heard, Prodigy users don't have an Internet address--is that still
correct?

Jeff K.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 11:18:17 EDT
From: [e-mail] (MR JEFF NEEDLEMAN)
Subject: E-mail AOL <==> Internet? (A)

In 11-149 Jeff Schindall asks how to send e-mail to AOL and PRODIGY through
the Internet.

The format for AOL is the [e-mail] (with any spaces deleted from the
userID). All AOL members can receive Internet mail.

PRODIGY's link to the Internet is pretty new and hasn't been talked about
much yet, so I'll give an extended answer to that question.

The format for PRODIGY is the [e-mail]. Only a few authorized
users as yet can receive mail via the Internet at PRODIGY; and such users
are charged a fee of 15 cents for every 3000 character block received. Mail
sent to unauthorized users is returned. The Internet mail link is being
alpha tested.  I think I'm the only Mac user currently authorized for
Internet access through PRODIGY (!), a perk from my recent appointment as
MemRep (kind of like a SysOp) for Macintosh topics in the PRODIGY Computer
Club. I can--and will--forward any Internet mail to any other PRODIGY user
for no fee; just be sure to address the mail to me as [e-mail]
and specify the PRODIGY ID of the final recipient. There's no charge to
anyone (me or the final recipient) for this service; but use it sparingly,
please. The PRODIGY mail link is limited to 60k per message; internal
binary file transfers to PRODIGY members are also possible with a 250k limit.

Jeff Needleman <[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 09:11:38 PDT
From: [e-mail] (jeff schindall)
Subject: Eudora &PB Modem

>>Has anyone out there been able to get Eudora to work on a powerbook using
>>the internal modem?
>
> You do need to configure Eudora so it thinks you're using a "Custom"
>modem. After clicking this choice it will ask you to put in an
>initialization string. Use the following:
>
>AT &F &Q0 Q0 V1
>
>Those are "Q-zero" not "Q-upper-case O" This to shut off a form of error
>correction that is left on as a default, and renders the Apple incapable of
>talking to other modems.
>
>Try this. It let's me get through to the modems that serve dail-in Eudora,
>then I run into other problems...
>Let me know what combination of data bit, stop bit, handshakes etc. you
>use. if you get the thing to work.
>

Thanks to Will Howard(and all the other respondents), I am finally able to
use the apple powerbook modem to make a connection.  I assume now that slip
will work also, although I haven't tried it.






                -jeff schindall

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 13:12:08 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Malinda Matney)
Subject: ftp via email

Sorry to bore everyone to tears with an FAQ, but could someone resend me
the form of an email message to receive ftpable files via email.
Something in my instructions got erased, and I cannot discern what it
is. Thank you very much!

Malinda
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:22:30 CDT
From: Reverend John <[e-mail]>
Subject: GEnie <--> Internet email

I know this is a common question, but I checked the email-gateways
report in the archives and it didn't have this info. So:

What is GEnie's internet email address? i.e., if someone's GEnie name
is BOB, I need to send mail to BOB@....? I tried genie.com but had no
luck.

Thanks,
Rev

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Date: 26 Jul 93 10:09:41 GMT
From: "Paul CHENG, ECO/CS            "
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Has anyone heard of a DELL-Mac trade-in program?

Howdy,

I don't know if this is the correct address for sending comments to Info-mac,
but the other address listed at the beginning of the Digest bounced back to
me.

My question: Has anyone heard of a deal from Dell offering to trade a
brand-new
486P/33 complete with 8MB memory and monitor for ANY Macintosh as long as it
is
working order?

The reason I ask is that here at the OECD (Organisation for Economic
Co-operation and Development), we have a few Macintosh's, but they are
definitely in the minority and the Computer Directorate has been trying to get
rid of them for years. They refuse to support them, refuse to connect them to
the network backbone, and would rather buy a UNIX workstation than a simple
Ethernet card. I don't mind having a UNIX workstation, but I would also much
rather have the choice of connecting my Macintosh.

I would not put it past the Computer Directorate to arrange a subsidised deal
with Dell to rid themselves of the remaining Macintoshes. Since they are
insisting that it is a deal directly from Dell, I would like outside
confirmation. It seems very odd to me that Dell would offer such a deal,
especially considering their finances at the moment.

Also, I'd be interested in what Apple would do in response to a situation like
this. I do believe that their marketing and sales to large organisations has
not been very effective. From my experience at the Federal Reserve Bank and
here at the OECD, there are a lot of people who make purchasing decisions who
are ignorant of the capabilities of the Macintosh and write them off
immediately.

At the moment, I am writing this letter on a 486/33 running an X-client on a
HP730 workstation which in turn is Telnetting to the e-mail system on a VAX --
and I still prefer the Macintosh!

If anyone has heard of a deal as described above, please let me know ASAP, as
the pressure is on to trade-in ALL of the Macintoshes. Thanks in advance.

Paul Cheng
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 21:03:30 IST
From: Uri Marcus <[e-mail]>
Subject: How do I xmodem from UNIX to Mac via Modem? (Q)

Does anyone there know how I can get my UNIX account to implement xmodem. I am
afraid I don't understand much about compiling code and all. Is there a simple
way to download the code in a format that the UNIX account will understand by
i
ssuing the right command? Thanks in advance for any help from anywhere.

Uri Marcus, [e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 07:48:47 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Icons disappearing

I know there was a discussion of this some time ago but it has just
started happening to me and, of course, I can't find the discussion
in my back windows.

I've just converted to system 7.1 and I am using AutoDoubler.  I have
been assuming that the cause was AD compression and associated modification
of the icans ( the "DD").  I tried rebuilding the desktop but the
generic icons persist.

I'll appreciate anyone taking the time to point me to the right corner
of the archive where I can reread about this.

Gary Lee Nelson, Professor
Electronic and Computer Music
TIMARA Program
Conservatory of Music
Oberlin, OH 44074
[phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 09:41:27 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Identifying OLD old System files (A)

>How does one find out the version number of very old Macintosh Systems?
>Apparently they did not all have VERS resources, and until System 6,
>the About the Finder window is, literally, ONLY about the Finder and
>says nothing about the System.

Use ResEdit to look at STR0 in the System file.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:39:55 CST
From: "Wade Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Last word on Info-Mac to AOL

I'd like to thank everyone who volunteered to help out by uploading Info-
Mac digest to AOL.  We had about 4 people volunteer.

We're going to choose based on first-come-first-served.  If that person
doesn't work out, we'll get back in touch with the others.

The person whom we've chosen will be notified shortly.

Thanks again to everyone!  You should start seeing Info-Mac on AOL real
soon now!

Wade Williams                         AFC Wade
Network Support Specialist            Forum Consultant
Auburn University                     Macintosh Development Forum
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:40:14 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LCIII Monitor Woes!!

Dear Net,

Try this one on for size!

We have 2, one is an LC III 8/160 with a 14' Mac Colour Monitor the other
an 4/80 with a Mac 12" Monochrome Monitor.  This morning  I booted up both
Mac number one and terror struck.  The screen had shrunk in display size.
The black border that usually surrounds the useable display is now an inch
and a quarter band at the top and bottom of the screen. The sides are still
the same.  Its as if my LC III has become a Mac Plus in regards to display
size.  The quality of the image etc. seems the same, all the icons are the
same size, just the display area is smaller.   Oddly, all the aliases that
used to be along the bottom have relcoated themselves to fit the smaller
display size.  I tried the colour monitor on a IIsi and it is fine, giving
a normal size display, as goes for the monochrome monitor of the other LC
III.  I had accepted that it was probably a video problem with my LC III.
I then went to boot up the other LC III and what do I find, but the same
problem!!!  Other than the display everything else seems to work just fine?
 Any ideas?

Thanks,

____________________________________
Iain D.Dickey - Medicine II
Faculty of Medicine
University of British Columbia

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 19:04:17 EDT
From: "Paul D. Bain" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Locking a hard disk (R)

To lock a hard disk, you might want to try MacPassowrd. It is shareware
and operates for 60 days with most functions enabled. While it won't stop
someone from opening the hard disk, they won't be able to do anything
with it if you don't give them permission to access that volume or folder.
That feature locks folders and hard disks accesses the same AppleShare-like
features built into the System. You will see folders open with little icons
showing no write permission. Rebooting from a floppy does not affect this
protection. And they have a very reasonable multiple copy pricing schedule.
I think there is even a site-license price which is still reasonable.

Another good option is Menu Master Mac, which is a desktop security program.
You can set which programs you want any user or group to have access to (it
is very easy to customize). If you allow access to the Finder, users still
will not have any access to folders you do not give them permissions for.
Once again, the privileges work similar to AppleShare/File Sharing.
Menu Master Mac also provides its own "desktop," which works very
much like your regular desktop. You can unmount diskettes, CD-ROMs,
server volumes, and non-system hard disks. So if you want access to
the desktop for those features, you still don't have to give access to
the Finder. And you can either require or prevent floppy disk use,
including an option to REQUIRE saving to floppies. (MacPassword kind
of does this if you don't give write access to the hard disk; they
have nowhere else to save!)

You can contact Electronic Learning Systems, the makers of Menu
Master Mac, by calling [phone]. They are located in
Gainesville, FL.

MacPassword is distributed (shareware) by Evergreen Software.
I don't have their address or phone number, but there is a demo
version on Sumex-Aim, America Online, Compuserve, and, I think,
GEnie.

By the way, Menu Master Mac is a very smart, very network-aware
program. You can set up menus that operate over the network
(more standardization for administrators) and if you update one
copy on the network, every copy will be automatically updated
to the new version as soon as they connect to the network.
Many, many more features; too many to list.

--Rick (at PDBAIN)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 14:59:22 BST
From: G Marsden (PG) <[e-mail]>
Subject: m4 Macro Processor

The title about says it all.

I am trying to find a Mac version of the m4 macro processor, either
public domain or pay-plenty-money ware. I have tried an archie and a
hunt through the usual sites ( sumex, umich ) , but no joy.
Can anyone help me?

Many thanks

Gary. ( [e-mail] )
Dept. of Computing Science,                     < Paste clever ASCII >
Uni. of Stirling, Scotland.                     <    logo here       >

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 14:55:19 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Mac IIx Power On

We have a Mac IIx which we use as a SNA-PS server. This machine is sitting
in a remote location, and is not easily accessible. The problem occurs when
the A.C. power goes down for a while, after which the Mac will not power on
again. Newer Macs can be set to always power on by rotating the power
button at the back by 90 degrees, but the old Mac IIx doesn't have this
option.

We're looking for some scheme to modify the power supply in such a way that
the Mac will always be switched on after a power-down.



--
Karl Pottie                           e-mail: [e-mail]
Mac Support                  University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium


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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:32:17 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Macworld Expo Toronto (A)

Hi Dr. Silverstein,

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I think I can help you with info. on
MacWorld Toronto.

Event: MacWorld Toronto

Location: Toronto Metro Convention Center

Schedule: September 20 (12pm - 7pm)
      September 21 (10am - 5pm)
      September 22 (10am - 5pm)

Hotline: [phone] (24 hours)

Cost before August 23: Session & Expo = $75
               Expo Only = $10
Cost after August 23: Session & Expo = $90
              Expo Only = $20

Organizer:     MacWorld Expo/Canada
       c/o Brukar International
           Suite 212, 385 The West Mall
           Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada
           M9C 1E7

I hope this helps. May be I'll see you there.


Vinko
-----
Vinko Tsui                        Vinko Enterprises
In Chicago:                       In Canada (Oakville):
Work: [phone]              Voice: [phone]
Home: [phone]              AppleLink: CDA1051

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:52:15 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Mathematica and MODE32 on SE/30 - it may work!

A recent posting suggested that Mathematica is incomaptible with MODE32
on a Mac SE/30. This does not seem to be true in general. I had some
time to try it out on my SE/30 running the US version of 7.1, MODE32,
8MB RAM, virtual memory for a total of 16 MB and Mathematica 2.2: There
was no problem at all running a test problem doing a comlicated
analytical integration. I didn't try a lot of problems (MMA is a lot
more usefull on the Quadra with more "hard" RAM) but you may be
successful with MODE32 on the SE/30.

Stefan

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 12:29:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MPW 3.3 is a breeze to install

I would like to respond briefly to a recent comment about MPW 3.3
installation made by [e-mail] last week.

I followed the instructions inthe release notes, and the upgrade
>From 3.2 to 3.3 took a few minutes (maybe 12), I just wrote the
same backup command I wrote to upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2, and it
did not require any "hand copying" nor modifcation of any of my
personal files.

MPW is not easy to use, but it certainly was painless to install.

-Michael E. Mauel
 Columbia University
 Department of Applied Physics
 New York City

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 16:21:11 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Jim Bradley)
Subject: On the fly monitor resolution switching

Help!  My boss asked me the following:

>I noticed an ad in Windows magazine for a product called ANY VIEW SCREEN
>COMMANDER FOR WINDOWS that turns your VGA monitor into a high performance
>display. It allows you to switch resolution, on the fly, from 640x480 to
>1024x768. Have you heard about this? Is something like this available for
>the Mac?

Has anybody heard about anything like this for the Macintosh.  The dim
recess of my brain are echoing sounds of remembrance, but it's not a tune I
recognize...

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:28:51 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PAL SIMM's (Q)

When I replace Leslye's venerable Mac II with a C650, I'd like to
cannibalize what I can before donating the II to some deserving group.
I thought to swap the 4 4M PAL SIMM's in the II with the 4 1M SIMM's
in my IIci. Hmmmm. Will PAL SIMM's work in a IIci? Will it hurt anything
if I try? I know the II and IIx require PAL SIMM's, but I don't know if
they are useful and/or harmful in any other machine.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 22:13:00 +0000
From: WANDERER_DAVID/[e-mail]
Subject: PC->MAC->PC

Here at work, I have a PC and a large Excel spreadsheet (10mb)...

I want to work with it at home on my Mac.....

How can I compress it across floppies to get it to my mac?  I have
the right software on the mac (ZIP) and it can read DOS disks but
I can't get it from the PC to a set of floppies?  Are there
any utilities around that allows me to do so?  I can't use
PKZIP as it says the floppy is full and subsequently aborts....

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Dave

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Date: 26 Jul 93 20:43:00 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Warren Mayer)
Subject: Posting to GENIE from Internet

Hi all,


Can I post to someone on GEnie via my Internet email account even
though my friend does not have the Internet-access part of GEnie?
Is there a way I can send him mail directly to his GEnie account
in a similar manner by which I send mail to friends on Compuserve
via Internet?

Many thanks.


Warren Mayer
Rutgers University
Microcomputer Applications, Systems, and LAN Support

[e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 12:18:59 +0200
From: Maurizio Codogno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problems with Harvest C

As my girlfriend asked me for a C system for its Mac (SE + 68030 card), just
to play a little with it, I grabbed for the archives Harvest C 1.3 (and the
MPW headers and libraries, of course).

The examples in the distribution compiled fine, but I tried the "standard"
trial program:
===================
#include <stdio.h>
main()
{
(void)printf ("Hello, world!\n");
exit(0);
}
===================
and building the application resulted in either error:

pippo.c:2 Syntax, before >: Expected external declaration

or

pippo.c:6 Syntax, before ;: Missing right brace.

yes: the first time I hit command-B I obtain the first error message, the
second time (without doing anything else...) I obtain the second one, the
third one I obtain the first message again, and so on.

What's wrong with it?

ciao! .mau.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 07:04:45 PST
From: Tim Castle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 800/MacTCP problem solved!

Thanks to all who replied to me regarding the problem I was having
with a Quadra 800 using MacTCP. Thanks to the suggestion of Chris
Pepper ([e-mail]), I finally found the problem.

Chris suggested that I turn off the Quadra, then try to ping the address
assigned to it. I tried it, and received a response! I then tried pinging
the node name assigned to the Quadra, and the Name Server returned the
correct address. That tells me that our network administrator set it up
right, but someone had already absconded with the address.

So, add this one into your problem/solutions databases, folks; if your
MacTCP returns an error of -23004, check to see if someone else is
using the IP address you're supposed to be using.

I'm off to talk to our net admin, and he and I will go out hunting the
address theif -- with a good hangin' rope...

      -T.C.

Tim Castle       [e-mail]
End-User Computing, GTE Gov't Systems, Mountain View, CA

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 13:28:13 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Bill Park)
Subject: Rocket Science in Palo Alto?

Need address/phone number of new Mac video startup in Palo Alto, California
called Rocket Science.  I understand they are developing Quicktime products.

Thanks,
Bill Park
[e-mail]
===============

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 09:53:43 EDT
From: Larry Wink <[e-mail]>
Subject: Splitting Mac files (R)

[e-mail] asks:

> Does anyone know of a Mac program that will split files into segments
> that will fit on a 1.4 meg disk and the segments must be able to be
> recombined on a Msdos or Unix machine.

May I suggest Splitter 3.0 by Taggart Gorman (at sumex as /util/splitter-30
.hqx).  It will allow you to segement the DATA FORK of a file into
any segment size you want (including an option to fill a disk).
You will lose whatever is stored in the resource fork (icons, pict,
moov, etc) but that wouldn't be of much use on Msdos or Un*x
machines (or would it?).

--Larry Wink <[e-mail]> or <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:25:20 EDT
From: Dr. M.S. Silverstein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stylewriter II and vertical axes

Sorry to be so persistant, but I have not yet received
an answer, so I thought I would try again...

The vertical axes with a program like kalidagraph turn
out jagged with a stylewriter II.  Does anyone know how
to get smooth axes when the letters are pointing up and
down??

Thanks

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 11:14:26 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Newton MessagePad...

-> You can't log on to a dialup service (no keyboard) and would you really
-> want to send a fax that looked like you used a crayon to create it ?

Please stay tuned for announcements from the major online services regarding
icon (and handwriting) driven interfaces. Remember that the MessagePad has
very
good handwriting recognition and hence doesn't need a keyboard. The object
recognition also cleans up your circles and squares etc, so it doesn't look
like crayon drawing.

Give it a chance...it's actually the first product since the PowerBook that
hovers around the "insanely great" arena.

David Lawrence
Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job
CAC/ARPA                                   *in* the world
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 75300,2460     AOL: OLTDavid or DoctorMac

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 08:08 EST
From: DON'T PANIC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Think C 6.0 and C++ (Q)

Dear Netters,
Please let me know which of the above packages for the Mac
 contains the other, and
therefore which would I find as the better deal?  I saw an answer several
weeks ago, but the search methods of my VAX/VMS are too slow to find
anything.

Please e-mail back your reply directly to me (as well as the net if you so
desire).  Thank you.
P.S. also if someone could reply before Symmantic raises their upgrade July
31st, it would be very helpful.
Sincerely,
[e-mail] (Internet)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 09:11:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Eric Burger)
Subject: Trouble with Arthur's Teacher Trouble

Forwarded message from Monty Hampton:
>
> Anyone out there have Author's Teacher Trouble by Broderbund? My 3 YO son
> loves it, but I've had problems with it even with a stripped down system.
> It starts fine but after about 15-20 minutes (it seems more time dependent
> than where you are in the program) it loses sound and he can't quit the
> program (he knows Command-Q). It happens when I use it too - so my son is
> doing anything out of the ordinary (or at least nothing I'm not also doing
> - which is basically pointing and clicking). I am running it on a IIci with
> System 7.1 and only At Ease and the Apple 4.2 CD driver software for INITs.
> Unfortunately, the problem has also occurred when I did not use At Ease.
> After several calls to Broderbund (8 to be exact), they finally sent me a
> replacement disk - but alas - the problem was still there. `Just Grandma
> and Me' works fine, so I don't believe I have a hardware problem. Anyone
> else experience these symptoms? Any ideas or suggestions? Any help would be
> appreciated.
> E.M. Hampton, OUHSC College of Pharmacy & OKC DVAMC
> 921 NE 13th Street,Oklahoma City, OK 73104 [phone]
> [e-mail]
>
> ------------------------------
>

I've exactly this problem on an SE/30 w/ Xceed Color 30HR, System 7.0.1,
20MBytes RAM, and a NEC CDR-35.  I even tried running with *all* extensions
/ cdev's off (SHIFT on boot).  Arthur's Teacher Trouble STILL exhibited the
exact symptoms you mention above!!!

AARGH!!!!  Try to explain that to a 3 year old!!!

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Date: 26 Jul 1993 10:18:26 U
From: "Kaufman Peter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Upgrading StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 -> 3.0.6 (A)

To: "Info-Mac" <[e-mail]>

>> Do I need to restart from 3.0 and then update step by step with all >>three
o
four updater? There is a way to generate a Master copy of
>> Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.6 from my master 3.0 using the updater?

Aladdin has posted 2 updaters, one that updates from 3.0.5 to 3.0.6, and
another
that will update from _any_ version of 3.0.x to 3.0.6.

Regards,
Peter Kaufman
[e-mail]

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